[update: it sounds like the search respects the profile discoverability opt-out, which federates, unlike the "search engine indexing" thing which does not? That's much less bad than we thought. It should still be opt-IN, though, not opt-out. https://oliphant.social/@oliphant/110373855153327649]
so apparently universeodon.com is doing FULL INDEXING on every post they receive, without consent. It sounds like maybe even non-public posts??
"we didn't get people yelling at us, so it must be okay! but now people are? what the fuck?"
I don't usually make fediblock posts, but uh
yeah if you don't want to be indexed without consent...
#fediblock universeodon.com for fulltext indexing incoming posts.
@IceWolf@masto.brightfur.net you know that akkoma and misskey instances can all do fulltext search on all posts right?
@iro_miya Because if they find a post in the federated timeline, that's like... they just happened to see it.
Don't let people SEARCH for whatever kind of people they don't like and harass them.
Also just like, I'm cool with people /happening/ to find my posts, NOT with them being able to /search/ for them.
If you want to search for my posts, ASK FIRST. It being public is NOT CONSENT.
@iro_miya (yeah I'm kinda shouty. This kind of "well if it's public, that's consent!" is way more common than it should be and it makes me pissed.)
@IceWolf@masto.brightfur.net I dont really get why you wouldnt want someone to search a post
If they harass you, ban them for harassing... not for searching...
@Polychrome "You should have been told that when you joined"
No. Fuck off.
We have had TOO MANY PEOPLE, with TOO MANY THINGS, tell us "you agreed, so it's okay!" / other variations of "It's Just Like That, Deal"
No, it is /not/ "just like that", we can make a better world where consent is respected, and... yeah, no. Go with your "but it's Just Like That" somewhere /else/.
@Polychrome Also, there is a MASSIVE difference between "not actively locked down" and "actively searchable".
@Polychrome It is not "just the spirit of things", and just because it was "always here" does NOT mean that it's a good thing to violate consent like this.
@Polychrome You're going "well that's the way it's Always Been so you don't matter, your privacy and control over your own scope don't matter, just deal with it" and I am NOT HERE FOR IT.
@IceWolf @iro_miya I don’t see the difference. Both are viewable messages that are sent unrestricted through the internet, a very open channel basically have access with their personal nightmare rectangle of the 🍎 or variety. regardless whenever you happen to upon it or search for, it’s still public and viewable by everyone. If you don’t want it to be seen, then just don’t post it or use your system’s dedicated private messaging.
This is a private instance for us.