[update: it sounds like the search respects the profile discoverability opt-out, which federates, unlike the "search engine indexing" thing which does not? That's much less bad than we thought. It should still be opt-IN, though, not opt-out. https://oliphant.social/@oliphant/110373855153327649]
so apparently universeodon.com is doing FULL INDEXING on every post they receive, without consent. It sounds like maybe even non-public posts??
"we didn't get people yelling at us, so it must be okay! but now people are? what the fuck?"
source:
https://terrible.city/@wolfe/110367918333706199
https://mas.to/@tokyo_0/110362014921240639
https://social.pixie.town/@joepie91/110361918551656137
https://universeodon.com/@supernovae/110351720627808159
I don't usually make fediblock posts, but uh
yeah if you don't want to be indexed without consent...
#fediblock universeodon.com for fulltext indexing incoming posts.
@IceWolf@masto.brightfur.net you know that akkoma and misskey instances can all do fulltext search on all posts right?
@iro_miya They do? Well they fucking SHOULDN'T!
@IceWolf@masto.brightfur.net @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be There are valid things to get angry at, and this is not one of them. Just because Mastodon kneecaps any form of useful search doesn't mean the rest of the fediverse should do the same.
Posts received by an instance that are public should be searchable by that instance. Global search? No, I'm not a fan of that. But this?
@privateger @iro_miya What you're talking about IS in fact global search.
@IceWolf@masto.brightfur.net @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be Wha- No? It's a search of posts federated with the instance. That is a VERY much smaller network than the whole fediverse.
Seriously, don't mix this up, one is a lot worse than the other.
@privateger @iro_miya I don't.
Fucking.
CARE.
It's "the whole fediverse that they know about". Yeah, it's naturally split up into subgroups. That has absolutely zero to do with anything here.
@IceWolf@masto.brightfur.net @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be Look, I'm open to have a conversation here, but if you're just going to yell at me, we can both save each other time.
@privateger @iro_miya Well, you're the one coming in to tell me I should just let people index my posts without being able to say no.
@IceWolf@masto.brightfur.net @privateger@plasmatrap.com I think it could be different because you can defederate them, unlike, say, a search engine like Google
@iro_miya @privateger This
Is
My
Fucking
Point.
That's what the OP is about.
@privateger @iro_miya also this is not "kneecapping any form of useful search"
you /don't fucking need to search anyone's posts, anywhere, anytime/
sure, there's critters building opt-in search systems, and I wish them the best of luck
but this isn't that.