[update: it sounds like the search respects the profile discoverability opt-out, which federates, unlike the "search engine indexing" thing which does not? That's much less bad than we thought. It should still be opt-IN, though, not opt-out. https://oliphant.social/@oliphant/110373855153327649]
so apparently universeodon.com is doing FULL INDEXING on every post they receive, without consent. It sounds like maybe even non-public posts??
"we didn't get people yelling at us, so it must be okay! but now people are? what the fuck?"
source:
https://terrible.city/@wolfe/110367918333706199
https://mas.to/@tokyo_0/110362014921240639
https://social.pixie.town/@joepie91/110361918551656137
https://universeodon.com/@supernovae/110351720627808159
I don't usually make fediblock posts, but uh
yeah if you don't want to be indexed without consent...
#fediblock universeodon.com for fulltext indexing incoming posts.
@IceWolf@masto.brightfur.net you know that akkoma and misskey instances can all do fulltext search on all posts right?
@iro_miya They do? Well they fucking SHOULDN'T!
@privateger @iro_miya No. Index your OWN posts, if you must. NOT MINE.
@privateger @iro_miya also this is not "kneecapping any form of useful search"
you /don't fucking need to search anyone's posts, anywhere, anytime/
sure, there's critters building opt-in search systems, and I wish them the best of luck
but this isn't that.
@IceWolf@masto.brightfur.net @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be Wha- No? It's a search of posts federated with the instance. That is a VERY much smaller network than the whole fediverse.
Seriously, don't mix this up, one is a lot worse than the other.
@privateger @iro_miya I don't.
Fucking.
CARE.
It's "the whole fediverse that they know about". Yeah, it's naturally split up into subgroups. That has absolutely zero to do with anything here.
@IceWolf@masto.brightfur.net @iro_miya@mk.absturztau.be Look, I'm open to have a conversation here, but if you're just going to yell at me, we can both save each other time.
@privateger @iro_miya Well, you're the one coming in to tell me I should just let people index my posts without being able to say no.
@IceWolf@masto.brightfur.net @privateger@plasmatrap.com I think it could be different because you can defederate them, unlike, say, a search engine like Google
@iro_miya @privateger This
Is
My
Fucking
Point.
That's what the OP is about.
@privateger @iro_miya What you're talking about IS in fact global search.